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I'm Doing a Memory Upgrade and Am Looking For Hints.

Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:12 AM EDT
technology, rottlady, memory-upgrade, emachine, adding-ram-to-a-computer, t5048a
By rottlady

EMachine T5048A, this what what the case looks like. How do I get into it???

The guts!

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As the title says, I've ordered and will be receiving  my RAM this week and will attempt to install it myself and am wondering if anyone wants to give me some hints or words of warning before I start.

A little background, I recently bought some software knowing I didn't have as much RAM as the package called for. My computer is an EMachine T series and it only came with 512mbs of RAM, I need 1GB per the software. I also have been having issues with my machine running real slow with some of the other programs I have.The software does run, but it runs really slow.

So  after mentioning it on another article, and being told that it was really a pretty simple matter I decided to go ahead and do it. I did all the research on the specific type of RAM I needed so that's not my question.

 

My questions are:

1 )I know I need to get something to dissipate the static electricity, what is best?

2 )I haven't had the case off of the computer yet and I've had it for over 3 years and expect it's going to be full of dust. What if anything should I get to help me clean the dust while the cover is off? I already have a can of compressed air.

3) I'm planning on going to Radio Shack to get the static thingy and am wondering what if anything else I might need while I'm there?

4) Does anyone know what tricks I might need to know the cover off of an EMachine Desktop machine? Are there any special little tabs that will be pushed etc. to remove it?

Ok, I think that's all, but there maybe more questions once I get the conversation going...

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rottlady

I hope someone can help answer my questions.

  • 3 votes
#1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
frostyone

ok first off all you need is a small vacuum to go along with the compressed air. it can get into small areas just be careful not to poke stuff with it. also a good flashlight is a must. any computer store should have anti-static wrist straps and they are cheap..just make sure to clip it to a railing on the interior of the case.

as for opening the case...there are no special tabs or tricks to opening an E-machine case just a couple of screws on the exterior.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:17 PM EDT
Nofluer

Your glasses are up on your forehead.

(That help???)

;-D

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:41 PM EDT
rottlady

Thanks Frosty, I guess that means you've taken the cover off of an emach?

Nofluer, no! If I did that no telling what would happen! I can't see a darn thing without the glasses... *smile*

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:51 PM EDT
frostyone

yeah more than a few. until we moved to NM I was a computer tech guy as well as a programmer haven't wanted to start working on them again until after we get orders again though as the next set of orders should be our last. When installing the RAM check to make sure it's lined up correctly (there is a little notch on the bottom of the RAM stick) otherwise you might accidentally damage something

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:54 PM EDT
redshadowwithgreenbackground

Exercise, drink fruit juice, do math problems, eat healthy, stay active, read NV

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:34 PM EDT
rottlady

Frosty, I'm sending you an email....

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:44 PM EDT
Dowser

frosty, I have a stupid question. I plugged in my external drive, and the new computer doesn't recognize it. Is it broken too? I pushed the On button on the back, and nothing happened, although it does have power.

Thanks!

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:17 PM EDT
frostyone

got it and sent a response :)

Hey Dowser...not a stupid question at all is the external drive hooked into the USB? did you have any software disks with it? check your tray next to your clock (bottom right screen) and see if you have any error messages. I have a couple of external HD's that I use for all my back ups and I just love them but mine needed the software installed first for me to be able to use them

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:27 PM EDT
Dowser

Frosty, I can't find the software that came with it. It is plugged into the USB port, and I went on the site that has the external drives for sale, but it said that I didn't need a driver download, Windows 7 already had the driver. Also, no error message. sigh... I'm such a klutz with this stuff!

Thanks so much!

  • 1 vote
#1.9 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:34 PM EDT
frostyone

hmm...ok try going to the site of the manufacturer of the HD...ie western digital, segate...etc and see if you can find your model listed. Once you do that you should see a link that will take you to a download page for the software

  • 1 vote
#1.10 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:38 PM EDT
Dowser

That is what I did... I'll go and look again, maybe I just missed it. Mine is a Western Digital book, I forget. I'll find it! Thanks, sweet frosty!

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:48 PM EDT
frostyone

anytime dear Dowser

Oh you can also try plugging the HD into a different USB connector...I've had to do that a few times

  • 1 vote
#1.12 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:49 PM EDT
rottlady

Dowser, I found this on the Western Digital site. It's a My Book right? That's the kind I have also.

  • 1 vote
#1.13 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:52 PM EDT
rottlady

Dowser, I also found the FAQ's that talk about drivers... Just scroll down a little to external drive.

  • 1 vote
#1.14 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:59 PM EDT
Dowser

Thanks, both of you! I found the download section for a driver update, but I have to turn off the anti-virus, etc. First, I have to figure out how to do all that... :-)

Things are just too complicated!

  • 1 vote
#1.15 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:16 PM EDT
rottlady

Good luck Dowser!

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:22 PM EDT
Jay Butler

first off all you need is a small vacuum to go along with the compressed air

Be careful. Vacuums can create *huge* amounts of static electricity. Only use a vacuum specifically made for electronics (if you have one). If you do not have one of those, just do your best with the compressed air and use the vacuum for the mess on the floor afterward,

  • 3 votes
#1.17 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:55 AM EDT
rottlady

After looking at prices, I think I'll just do the comp air. Hopefully it won't be that bad! Thanks for the hints.

  • 1 vote
#1.18 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:57 AM EDT
james-2380631

please make sure to save your files to disk no matter what upgrade you make. or just find out first so you don't half to bother with all those backup disks. i know someone who upgraded to windows 7 and lost all their files.

  • 1 vote
#1.19 - Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:00 PM EDT
rottlady

Thanks for the hint James, I did do a full backup before I added the memory.

  • 1 vote
#1.20 - Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:36 PM EDT
Student of Life

It's a good practice to occasionally backup, but upgrading memory is one of those things where it's not necessary. All the software drivers are already installed, and Windows won't change anything / install any new drivers to accommodate that new memory. Windows really doesn't DO anything with memory, except USE it,

Changing a mainboard? Yes, because there are several different manufacturers of bios, chipsets, northbridges, controllers, etc. and Windows has a tendency to 'freak out' when it's suddenly given a whole bunchof new equipment all at once. If I'm swapping motherboards, I typically reinstall Windows.

  • 1 vote
#1.21 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:07 AM EDT
rottlady

Thanks for the info!

  • 1 vote
#1.22 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:10 AM EDT
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belle42

Damn rotty -- I was gonna say some smartass comment about unplugging your brain then becoming a troll here on the Vine, but you're talking about COMPUTER memory, not HUMAN memory! :P

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:16 AM EDT
rottlady

Tee hee, I knew that would come up sometime, but I didn't think it'd be the first comment. Ha!

Oh well, at least you got the conversation started, thanks Belle!

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:18 AM EDT
belle42

Anytime dearest rotty -- unfortunately I'm an 'off the shelf' kind of girl. Upgrading at home is WAY out of my league!

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:22 AM EDT
rottlady

I thought it was for me too, but I really don't think it's going to be that hard. *grins* At least I hope not!

  • 4 votes
#2.3 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:28 AM EDT
Sick'N'Tired'Of'It

Actually, rottlady, it's pretty easy. I did it myself for the first time about 2 years ago- and have since moved on to doing loads of other things- changing out a worn dvd drive, changing out a harddrive, up until the latest- building my own machine and I'm hardly technosavy.

Seriously. It's easy. Just take it one step at a time, remain calm, follow instructions and you should be fine.

You should also pick up a basic tool-kit at the same time as you get the wrist-strap too- at least, I did and, I certainly didn't regret it either since they've seen quite a bit of use since.

  • 2 votes
#2.4 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:08 PM EDT
rottlady

You know I was wondering about a tool kit, or at least a phillips screwdriver. I have some but I wondered if there is so special ones that would work better?

Thanks for the soothing advice. I'm usually pretty handy so I think I can manage this... But I live on this computer so I don't want to mess up!

  • 2 votes
#2.5 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:53 PM EDT
frostyone

yeah there are a wide range of computer repair toolkits avaliable but I'd suggest just getting a basic one (about 15 tools) and keeping it in your computer desk.

  • 1 vote
#2.6 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:28 PM EDT
belle42

Is one of the tools a sledgehammer? I know when my computer has a hissy fit I threaten it with a sledgehammer and it starts working better :)

  • 2 votes
#2.7 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:33 PM EDT
rottlady

Lol, Belle, you are a riot! Ha! I think a sledgehammer is probably extra...

Thanks Frosty!

  • 2 votes
#2.8 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:37 PM EDT
belle42

Tee hee -- I always try to bring levity to a discussion...that was too good of an opportunity to pass up :P

  • 2 votes
#2.9 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:38 PM EDT
frostyone

sledgehammers? I just show mine my .357 when it thinks about acting up ;)

  • 3 votes
#2.10 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:39 PM EDT
Sick'N'Tired'Of'It

Actually, I've personally found that sticking your tongue out the side of your mouth and biting your lip juuuuust right works wonders all on it's lonesome.

And, if that doesn't work- then, I threaten the 12-gauge.....

  • 1 vote
#2.11 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:05 AM EDT
rottlady

*smiles*

  • 1 vote
#2.12 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:25 AM EDT
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ADad-1477522

Memory upgrades r really tricky. A really competent neurosurgeon is needed.

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:33 AM EDT
ADad-1477522

But seriously, if u have an older board, u may only be able to upgrade *so far*. I would forego RS and look into one of the mom and pop computer shoppes. They usually can get stuff cheaper (I know that sounds goofy, but RS tends to be a bit higher priced:-()

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:42 AM EDT
rottlady

I've already bought the ram online, it should be here today. I was just going to RS for the static thingy. Thanks!

  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:10 AM EDT
ADad-1477522

Enjoy the speed!!!

  • 2 votes
#4.2 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:32 AM EDT
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checkerbattery

1. Just touch the bare metal on the case before you start - that'll ground you and get rid of static electricity. At least that's what I've been doing for decades and never had a problem. Also try not to touch the gold conductors when you pick up the RAM sticks.

2. Compressed air is all you need. Just blow off the big chunks and you'll be fine.

3. Nothing - save your money.

4. Not sure but it should be pretty straight forward. You should see some screws on the back holding either a side panel on or the entire cover.

Replacing/upgrading RAM is about a 60 second operation from start to finish. It really is that easy. It looks like that system has two slots so if I were you I'd go ahead and upgrade to 2GB of RAM while you're at it. Your system will run sooo much better with 2GB versus 512MB or even 1GB.

  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:43 AM EDT
rottlady

Great! So what you are saying is just discharge any possible static before I start and I'll be good?

I did go ahead and get the 2GB setup, just because it was co cheap and they suggested to make sure and fill both available slots for optimum performance. So hopefully things will rock and roll once I get it done.

Thanks so much for the reassurance, I think it should be able to do this without any problems, I just wanted to hear it one more time....*smiles*

  • 1 vote
#5.1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:09 AM EDT
ADad-1477522

checker:

1. Just touch the bare metal on the case before you start -

PRE #1: Unplug computer!!! hehe

I forgot to unplug mine. Touched the metal... heard a small sizzling sound... :'-(

Went and got a new machine...

  • 1 vote
#5.2 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:25 PM EDT
checkerbattery

Actually you should leave it plugged in so it's still electrically grounded when you ground yourself, but yes unplug the machine before you start working on it. I doubt that eMachines box has hot swappable RAM ;)

  • 3 votes
#5.3 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:45 PM EDT
rottlady

I just read something about leaving it plugged to the power surge protector and turning the power switch on the back of the cpu. Is that the right way to do it?

  • 2 votes
#5.4 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:55 PM EDT
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ADad-1477522

U can also get a static strap that u put around ur wrist and clip it to the metal on the motherboard;-)

  • 2 votes
Reply#6 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:09 AM EDT
rottlady

Thanks!

  • 2 votes
#6.1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:10 AM EDT
ADad-1477522

Sure thing;-)

  • 1 vote
#6.2 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:31 AM EDT
Nofluer

Or if you can figure out what breaker the outlet you're plugged into is on, kill the breaker and leave the machine plugged in, that grounds the machine. Then YOU touch the metal frame of the computer before you touch anything else, and that grounds YOU, so no static shock fries your memory strips. (And make sure you ground yourself BEFORE you open the static proof package the memory stick comes in!!!)

  • 3 votes
#6.3 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:19 PM EDT
rottlady

(And make sure you ground yourself BEFORE you open the static proof package the memory stick comes in!!!)

Now there's something I didn't think of! Thanks!

  • 1 vote
#6.4 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:21 PM EDT
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Tedd Riggs

Whoa a 2 GByte MommaRott she is going Rock !

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:25 AM EDT
rottlady

Yay! They just delivered it too! Woohoo!

  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:46 AM EDT
Tedd Riggs

BTW....Did it work ? Is it faster ? No smoke I hope........

  • 4 votes
#7.2 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:55 PM EDT
rottlady

I'm waiting for a friend to come over tomorrow or the next so he can be the one on the floor unhooking cables and such. My computer sits on the floor by my feet and I'm just not that limber to get down there to un-hook everything! Thank heavens for friends!

  • 2 votes
#7.3 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:00 PM EDT
Tedd Riggs

Hey Rottlady,

Today is almost over and no word on new memory........oh oh is your pc working ?

  • 4 votes
#7.4 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:26 PM EDT
rottlady

Not yet, that dang memory is burning a hole in my pocket! I'm going to wait until tomorrow afternoon. It's Good News Wednesday and I don't want to be off line...

Actually, I'm waiting for my buddy to help get that heavy thing off the floor!

  • 3 votes
#7.5 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:37 PM EDT
Tedd Riggs

I am forgetting alot recently, can you help me with more memory ?

  • 2 votes
#7.6 - Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:47 PM EDT
rottlady

Write it down, that always helps me.... *grins*

  • 1 vote
#7.7 - Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:52 PM EDT
belle42

(that's also called a 'manual download of information') :P

  • 1 vote
#7.8 - Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:34 PM EDT
Tedd Riggs

Probably a good idea for me then :-)

  • 2 votes
#7.9 - Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:53 PM EDT
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Dowser

Dear Elizabeth, I can't offer any help, but I can say this: The Best of Luck to you! You will be fine, I'm sure!

((((((((((((((Elizabeth)))))))))))))))))

  • 2 votes
Reply#8 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:43 PM EDT
rottlady

Thanks Dowser, I read somewhere that you had to get a new computer? I'm sorry you had to do that, but at least I hope you got one you like.

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:53 PM EDT
Dowser

Thanks, dear Elizabeth! Yes, I have a new computer, and am plugging along nicely. Now, if I can just recover some of my files, I'll be happy. :-)

Much love to you!

  • 2 votes
#8.2 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:00 PM EDT
rottlady

We'll keep our fingers crossed on you recovering your important files! Did you by any chance get an external drive for backup? If not, you might think about that. They don't cost that much for a lot of storage and then next time you won't lose anything.

I bought one for around 100$ that will hold way more than I'll ever need, and they do come a little cheaper than that. link

  • 2 votes
#8.3 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:07 PM EDT
Dowser

yes, I have an external drive and backed up all but the most recent additions... however, I can't get that to work, either, AND it was sitting in my briefcase, totally connected to nothing when all the fol-de-rol started. Sigh...

I am MOST annoyed.

  • 2 votes
#8.4 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:21 PM EDT
rottlady

Oh my! I have mine sitting on top of my computer and it starts up when the computer does...it runs a backup on anything new everyday... You need to get that out of the dang briefcase Dowser! *smiles*

  • 2 votes
#8.5 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:23 PM EDT
Dowser

Maybe it is a good thing I didn't, since everything else was fried! :-) sigh...

  • 2 votes
#8.6 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:26 PM EDT
rottlady

Well, I guess that's one good reason isn't it....I had forgotten how your computer problems began, I guess it was lightening? Makes me scared just to think about. I guess we should all have a lightening surge protector.....

Dang, another thing to put on my list!

  • 2 votes
#8.7 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:29 PM EDT
Dowser

I had one, dear Elizabeth. It didn't work. ARGHH!

:-)

The cable guy told me that it was the Ohms that fried everything, not voltage-- and what he didn't say, but what I believe that he was saying, is that it came in over the broadband wire, because it also fried the modem, etc. Disgusting.

Then, last night, our TV died. I'm beginning to feel jinxed! ;-)

  • 2 votes
#8.8 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:33 PM EDT
rottlady

Oh you poor thing! Dang, I would be lost if I didn't have my boob-tube! That sucks!

(((((((Greatbigrottiehugsfordowser))))))))

  • 2 votes
#8.9 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:37 PM EDT
Nofluer

The cable guy told me that it was the Ohms that fried everything, not voltage

ROTFLMBO!!!!

Gotta love them cable guys!!! They're so ignorant, I'm surprised that more of them don't die every year from being attacked by vicious imaginations.

Ohms is the unit of measure for the resistance of a circuit to electrical current (amps). The relationship is E=IR where E is voltage, I is Amperage/amps, and R is resistance/ohms. Ohms don't fry anything - ever.

  • 5 votes
#8.10 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:04 PM EDT
Dowser

See how much I know? Zilch! all I know is that everything went down...

:-)

Thanks for your explanation! Sometimes, I do get smarter here... And other times, it is a lost cause!

  • 2 votes
#8.11 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:06 PM EDT
rottlady

Thanks Nofluer for the refresh on electricity. I took AC/DC a very long time ago and had forgotten most of what I learned... I guess that has something to do with age!

  • 1 vote
#8.12 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:57 PM EDT
Nofluer

Think "pioneer" - aka PIE and EAR - aka P=IE & E=IR and you've got Ohm's Law.

With a wee bit of algebra, (and a quick look-see into an "UGLY's Electrical References" book for the resistance of the wire you're using), and reading the label on the equipment you're hooking up for the starting amps, voltage rating, etc, you can work out such interesting things as the amperage that your circuit will require to overcome said total circuit resistance, and thus the proper size of breaker to use in the box. Easy-peesy! ;-D

Can you run that electric space heater on this circuit with your hair drier on? Does your microwave REALLY require it's very own circuit? etc.

But seriously - if you don't know/can't remember what Ohm's Law is and how its parts work, or what to do with those "left-over" wires, you should call a licensed electrician for that stuff. :-o

As to the memory thing... I only remember the unimportant stuff.

  • 3 votes
#8.13 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:00 PM EDT
rottlady

As to the memory thing... I only remember the unimportant stuff.

Ha! Me too!

  • 2 votes
#8.14 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:05 PM EDT
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Soovivers

Just one small thing Elizabeth. Be sure and seat the memory into the slots really tight but also be careful not to bend anything in there. I've put in a lot of memory and hard drives - so if I can do it then you can - no problem.
Good luck....

Ahhhh, Poor (((((Dowser)))))

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:53 PM EDT
Dowser

(((((((((((((Soovie)))))))))))))))

I hope you are having a good day today!

  • 1 vote
#9.1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:56 PM EDT
Soovivers

Dear dear Dowser - I think my day is going much better then yours, but there is always light at the end of the tunnel. I hope you can see it before too long.

Hugs to You (((((((Dowser)))))))

  • 2 votes
#9.2 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:07 PM EDT
Dowser

All will be well, dearest Soovie! I'm just taking it one disaster at a time! :-)

Peep's TV works, so we can transplant the old one out to the recycle place, and bring his in to the bedroom to watch. :-)

I love you!

  • 2 votes
#9.3 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:22 PM EDT
Soovivers

Oh Dowser - when it rains it pours, huh? But things could be worse.

and bring his in

That's what we do - just exchange the one that is working for the broken one and wait for a sale.

Love you back Dowser.

  • 2 votes
#9.4 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:57 PM EDT
Dowser

Everything could be a LOT worse! :-)

Much love, dear Soovie!

  • 2 votes
#9.5 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:18 PM EDT
rottlady

Soovivers, sorry I haven't responded to you comment yet. I tried to a little while ago and got that dreaded "bubblegum" error! Dang that thing!

Now, I forgot what I was going to say.....

Oh, thanks for the boost in confidence, I think I can do this. I think I can. I think I can...

*smiles*

  • 1 vote
#9.6 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:40 PM EDT
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rottlady

I can't believe what you can find on YouTube, I just found a video of replacing ram on an Emachine! Way cool!

  • 1 vote
Reply#10 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:41 PM EDT
frostyone

Cool!! I'd forgotten all about the How to vids on youtube

  • 1 vote
#10.1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:44 PM EDT
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mstanley2265

Gotta love you tube! Good luck on memory upgrade! It really, really is helpful lol

  • 1 vote
Reply#11 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:33 AM EDT
rottlady

Thanks!

  • 1 vote
#11.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:52 AM EDT
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FDBryant3

I'll probably be repeating some stuff and you may have already done it but here are my thoughts.

Best practices say you should wear a static wrist strap in rubber sole shoes on a tile floor. Real world experience? I do them all the time on carpet in bare feet and don't even own a strap. Just make sure to touch metal on the case before working inside the box. If you have a tile space doesn't hurt to work on that and can make things easier if you drop a screw.

Canned air is okay for clearing the vents but you may want to pull out the vacuum as it will other wise just settle somewhere probably back in the case. You can buy one of the small power dust buster types but honestly I'd just use the crevice attachment on my floor vacumm.

Be firm but don't force anything. RAM should just "click" into place bringing the locks close. Take note of how the RAM currently in the system looks and that will give you an idea how it should look when done. If you search YouTube and Google I'm sure you can find plenty of videos and guides showing how it is done (it is really very simple).

  • 2 votes
Reply#12 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:23 PM EDT
rottlady

Thank you for your insightful comment. I've vacuumed all around the computer already and plan to clean up with vac also. I did watch some videos yesterday, I even found one for my particular machine so that helped too!I even know how the case comes off now! *smiles*

I'm pretty confident that I won't have any problems. Again, thanks!

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#12.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:42 PM EDT
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Student of Life

Step 1. Unplug your computer. This seems like a duh comment, but I've replaced a lot of fried motherboards from people who just powered off the switch. The modern ATX motherboards still have power flowing through them, even when powered off. Better safe than sorry.

Step 2. rest your arm against the case while you're working. This will effectively ground you out, keeping your body at the exact same resistance as the case. There is no potential for static discharge at this point.

Step 3. using your fingertip (or a sturdy toothpick) pull back on the metal clasps you'll see to the bottom of either side of the RAM chip. You'll know when you'll pull them back far enough. The ram will kick forward at a 45 degree angle.

Step 4. Lightly pull on the RAM. Don't yank. It's a Zero Insertion Force socket, you don't need any force. If the chip doesn't easily come out, then your clips probably aren't completely seated.

Step 5. Place the removed RAM chips on a static bag.

Step 6. Remove the new modules.

Step 7. Position the 'key' so it matches the 'key on the motherboard.

The motherboard 'key' looks like this

|-------------|---|--------------------------------------------------|

match them up, and then slide them into the DIMM slot at a 45 degree angle.

Step 9. Push up on the edge of the chip so it rotates upright, until it clicks into the socket. It shouldn't take too much effort.

Step 10. Power up the computer, turn it on. Allow the memory check to come up. A point to remember - 1 gigabyte actually equals 1024 mb, not 1000. So if you have 4 GB of memory installed, your computer will report it as 4096mb, not 4000.

*Important note* 32 bit versions of Windows will only recognize 3 gb of memory. So even if you put 24 gb of Memory in, 32 bit Windows will only report 3.36gb (give or take.) This is normal. To take advantage of all of your memory, you'll need to upgrade to a 64 bit version of Windows. (If you can find your windows product key, you just need to call Microsoft and they'll mail you a copy for around $10 for shipping/handling.)

Now pat yourself on the back! You're done! Enjoy your faster, happier computer.

If things go wrong, pay attention to the symptoms the computer gives.

If the memory count is low by the equivalent of 1 memory chip (ie the computer reports 2048mb instead of 4096mb) then the likely culprit is that one of your memory isn't seated properly.

Now if when you powered the computer up the screen doesn't light up, and the computer beeps at you , then likely its the same thing - your memory isn't seated properly. Repeat steps 1 and 2 , and reseat the chips until the metal locking retainers clip into the side of the ram chips.

If you need any more assistance, please don't hesitate to ask.

(background: A+, Network +, MCSE, MCT, CCNA, CCNP, CCISP, 20 years computer repair experience)

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Reply#13 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:44 PM EDT
rottlady

Excellent! I've printed out your instructionsinstuctions and will pay attention to them.

Thank you so much!

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#13.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:59 PM EDT
Student of Life

My pleasure...let me know if you have any questions regarding the steps, or if something comes up that you're confused about.

I think everyone should have a working knowledge regarding their computers, and nothing makes me happier then helping people achieve that end...

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#13.2 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:38 PM EDT
rottlady

I think the way to laid out these instructions is just perfect so right now I have no questions. Thanks again!

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#13.3 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:14 AM EDT
Tedd Riggs

Good set of instructions BTW !

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#13.4 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:22 AM EDT
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rottlady

WooHooo! Yippeee! I'm flying!!!!

It worked and all is good! Thank you everyone for hanging in there with me. I really appreciate it!

  • 3 votes
Reply#14 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:58 PM EDT
Tedd Riggs

So is it faster ? You going to be cranking out 5 articles a day, 10 seeds per day ? :-)

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#14.1 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:23 PM EDT
rottlady

It's a whole lat faster starting up and opening browser pages. I doubt that translates to extra articles/seeds though. I've got a lot of things going on right now.

  • 2 votes
#14.2 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:33 PM EDT
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Soovivers

Good for you Rottie - I'll bet it makes a whole bunch of difference. That's like have a new computer for a lot less.

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Reply#15 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:02 PM EDT
rottlady

Thanks, it really does make tons of difference!

  • 1 vote
#15.1 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:54 PM EDT
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Student of Life

Best bang for your buck upgrade you can make.

Next best upgrades ? dedicated video and sound cards. They don't have to be high end at all. But (on most) motherboards, the memory allocated to video and sound functions are taken from your main system memory. (Commonly referred to as shared memory.)

The reason these are problematic (and slow down computers) is say that you're browsing the web, and that takes 4 mb of RAM. You stop your browsing and jump into photoshop. That program likes 128 mb of RAM, the more the better. So your video processor polls the memory banks for a 128 mb of RAM. If it's there, the video card 'syphons' off the memory from the rest of the system. A dedicated video card doesn't have this problem. Every program gets 128mb of RAM whether it needs it, or not , and the system resources are untouched.

Onboard video and sound are convenient, but they're also likely chokepoints in your quest for a little more computing power.

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Reply#16 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:39 PM EDT
Jay Butler

Fast hard drives are good upgrades too. Replacing a 5,400 rpm drive with a 7,200 rpm can make a huge difference in overal system performance.

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#16.1 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:51 PM EDT
rottlady

The photoshop elements 8 program is the main reason I bought the extra ram. What I had would hardly run it. I tried opening it just a while ago and it popped up in less than 2 secs! It took forever before, so I know things have improved.

I'll probably stop here with any upgrades for now, but I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

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#16.2 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:53 PM EDT
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ADad-1477522

I could really use some short term memory upgrades... But, if I ram my head into the wall any more, well, my long term memory might start to forget why it's there...hehe

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Reply#17 - Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:33 AM EDT
mightyj

Elaine- I can't help you with the memory thing but I have an idea for something I can help you with. an AVATAR is waiting for you.

  • 1 vote
Reply#18 - Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:01 AM EDT
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